Who is Nancy Guthrie, and where is she now?
If you have been listening to the news in early February of 2025, you know of the Guthrie Kidnapping of the 84-year-old mother of News reporter Savannah Guthrie. A heart patient who was taken from her home, possibly by brute force, from the blood trail trailing from her home in Arizona.
She was on a daily medication for her heart and would be in real medical problems without it. Possibly leading to her dying in the hands of those criminals.
Progress So Far
The police are no doubt on the case, along with President Trump, the DOJ, the FBI, and various news casters everywhere. That's a good thing. I truly and honestly hope and pray for the lady's safe return. May the Good Lord keep her and the family strong during this completely unnecessary ordeal.
Such cruel and evil things should never happen. But greed, envy, and human nature convince people to trade their souls for the imaginary gain of money.
Everything in life is a trade. If those kidnappers believe they can gain from this deed, they will learn that Karma is a cruel Master. There is no reset in life to fix what's done.
I do have a few opinions and thoughts that no doubt have, or should have, occurred to the professionals who say they're stumped on the news broadcasts. no clues, no way to find the kidnapper's position or where the letter was sent. I am sure many folks who watch various detective shows are taking notes to figure out "the whodunit." I think, in my own mind, there's more to this than meets the eye.
Might The High Tools Protecting Criminals?
Minneapolis and other cities with coordinated "Anti Ice protests" have used the Signal app and others to hide their activities. I hope, one day soon, that law enforcement agencies with warrants will have a backdoor to these apps. This would prevent criminal activities from hiding this sort of activity from authorities in pursuit of serious, life-threatening criminals.
Consider that if this happens with the Guthrie in this life-threatening kidnapping of an elderly woman in her home in the middle of the night, and the criminals are being helped by a phone app to hiding thier activities, and possibly lead to the cost of losing this woman's life. I would think this might be akin to aiding and abetting criminals.
Let's think about the situation. I'll refer to these perps as "They" to simplify my thoughts a bit.
Evidence So Far
They knew about her Cameras and the reports, depending on who was reporting, say the cameras were taken. By the police or the perps. If the police have them, it is evidence. If the perps took them, it indicates they knew those cameras were there. Either someone who knew the resident or someone who had often visited the residence and was aware of the security setup. Possibilities of a visiting nurse or insurance person. That camera would be evidence of the perps or anyone who was a regular visitor.
I'm sure the neighbors and their homes have been looked over. No offense to anyone, but all the possibilities must be looked at with what's available. No one can be overlooked in such a serious matter.
If Only TV Were Reality
It would be great to have the crime solved within 35 minutes of its commission, like in different TV shows. Complete with genius lab folks and super observant on the scene detectives with that computer-like mind to see that this hair is from a Siberian wolfhound, A rare breed of dog, find the owner, and you find the perpetrator. Crime solved, goto end credits and music. I rather doubt it goes quite so cut-and-dried in reality as we know it.
Back to Reality.
This looks like an inside deal, but it also looks like a precise and military kidnapping. The extraordinary precision of the disappearance gives this lady's situation a military tone. Is there anyone looking into the military-type operation here? Please remember we were told, and many videos were shown, of military-aged men crossing into the United States with Biden's D.C.'s blessing. The area Nancy was kidnapped from is close to the border, and prescriptions are over the counter there.
Think about it for a minute. Middle of the night. No one is around to see the activity. No one to see her fight her kidnappers, who no doubt hustled her out of bed. Was it a break-in, or did they have keys? Was there a struggle as reported? Did she recognize who it was, and did that lead to her disposal?
The Blood Trail,
She was a heart patient, so there would be blood to compare with the medical labs. Was it Nancy Guthrie's or someone else's? Self-defense courses teach that you need to fight using fingernails to save biological evidence for solving most murders or assaults.
Did this blood come from the perps? Gene technology can actually reconstruct a person's hair color, skin color, and pretty much identify a person from that information these days. its investigativly inensive.There is a life at stake. This is the first of such very publicized high-tech kidnappings. Let's stop it here. This is the actual reason we elect people to plug the holes in our abilities to maintain order.
Paper Trails and Tracks Tell a Story
There must be tracks of feet and vehicles, in which blood may have been stepped, or there may be fingerprints or DNA of other people. Many of us have watched police videos of stoplight cameras that catch violations 24/7. There shouldn't be that many folks out and about, double-checking who was moving in the night.
Then there is a report of a gas station person seeing this lady in a vehicle there at about that time. There are normally cameras there to catch thieves and drive-offs. If it's accurate, it might indicate the direction the vehicle was heading. Maybe grabbing at straws, but let's see every avenue to get this lady home.
If there are receipts or videos of this place, inside or outside, they may provide evidence. Paying cash is still evidence if the place had cameras. Those who work there may remember the people. It may be another dead end. But again, there's a life involved here.
The Conclusions Here
The evidence they do have, which is being shared, shows that the cameras were disconnected, a deliberate operational security measure. A quick, clumsy grab and run didn't happen here. It looks structured and probably rehearsed to precision. That, in itself, is a structured, military-style way of thinking. Not a Thrown-together act with a handle, as it happens, plan.
It was a structured, disciplined plan. They knew what they had to deal with. They knew the exact scenario they needed to dismantle the security, enter the house covertly, and approach Nancy Guthrie to control and remove her from her home.
The sheriffs also said to have bungled the investigation from the start, and that complicated the FBI when they stepped in. That left much smaller evidence intact to be useful. It's so strange that a professional police department would bungle a kidnapping or a murder abduction so badly. 🇮🇹 would almost make one wonder if it was intentional. And if so, what would be the reason? The sheriff did say no one is beyond suspicion.
Even High Tech Ransom Notes
The grammar in the kidnapper's letter was described as carefully crafted, structured, and layered. This is possible using Artificial Intelligence, helping to write almost anything on an updated computer. Even a cell phone has this ability. Even a 6-year-old could craft such a note with a purpose-built device. Most do have that ability these days. I use A. I myself have many AI handling my tasks. It's really common these days. Many new Cell phones, Laptops, and towers are already equipped with AI abilities. No special knowledge needed, as the machine will teach or prompt you.
Inside Knowledge Is Evident
There are reports that the Interior of the residence was already known by the kidnappers before they arrived. They knew of the floodlights that would give them away. They also knew about her Apple Watch, which was connected to her iPhone to monitor her heart. That is either a medical professional who knew about her condition or the people who set up the watch for her. Maybe at her home, since many places now sell those expensive gadgets as a service.
Bitcoin Is The Prefered Currency Of Which Generation?
Jus Sayin...But cryptocurrency has a large following among a specific age group. tho more folks are learning how to grow and use the crypto system as time goes on. It is supposed to be decentralized and untraceable, with no banks involved. It uses a new system that is supposedly a safe place to launder money, according to reports from investigations into California and Minnesota fraud cases.
Encryption Evading The FBI
The email is encrypted and untraceable so well that even the FBI cannot trace it. I wonder if the supercomputer could unlock the encryptions to find the perps. It would be a real test to see what its capabilities are. And again, there's a life at stake. We need a DUGE department to find these guys. They're good, but I would bet some 11-year-old genius scriptwriters are better.
Multiple Deadlines
The Kidnappers have produced absolutely no evidence that the victim, Nancy Guthrie, is still alive and well. At least at the time of my writing the first article. They have given no contact number or reply contact for either negotiating or contacting the Githrie Family. Another military security move? You have to wonder if it's a distraction.
I would hate to think that the kidnappers are former police folks who know the procedures of the FBI and hostage negotiators. It seems the kidnappers are very familiar with the tactics being used. If that's the case, the lawmen and women should adjust the situation, and no doubt will do just that.
Folks are complaining about the time and resources spent on this by investigating agencies. I don't suppose they would object if it were their case receiving the eyes of the law in that measure. It's understandable.
Recon Before Extraction
There had to be the same Reconnaissance for Nancy as that was carried out for a certain Venezuelan leader a short time ago. It was said to be an easy grab. Nancy seems to be similar. 41 or so minutes of that individual inside the house. One reporter said there were cameras inside the house. If that is correct, why hasn't there been any word on more precise photos of the individual (s)? Surely that would make the public the biggest posse in the world.
As has been reported, though by many, the initial investigation was so nonprofessional that it made the FBI's job extremely difficult. Videos show Deputies wandering throughout the house, disturbing evidence. The time that passed before they even took her disappearance seriously was interesting.
An 84-year-old woman who couldn't walk more than 150 feet due to a bad heart and age, left her meds, wallet, and things she always carried at home, and disappeared at we hours of the early morning? Did they assume the mother ship beamed her up? What was the reason for the lapse in deciding it was something to look into?
There are photos of an antenna-like object in the perpetrator's pocket. It's unknown as to what it was. Some think it to be a jammer, a scanner, or a walkie-talkie, assuming it is more than one person. One reporter wondered if it was a blackjack. a leather pouch filled with lead.
Multiple deadlines, Terrorizing threats.
There have been multiple deadlines for ransom. which means there are probably escalating consequences threatened. Another felony terrorist act? It proves there is operational planning throughout this ordeal. This attests to the kidnappers' professional military planning. I am not glorifying these thugs; I am just pointing out the possible facts involved.
A white van.
Some neighbors observed a white van parked in the area nearby before the kidnapping. Though I have not heard much more than that. I can't help wondering if it was a remote observation by a human or a tech set up in that van. Observation equipment can be operated by remote control, like a drone would be. These people don't have to be physically there to observe and study an area or person. Again, tech can do that in a van nearby. the perfect recon. What person, not paranoid, would think of it just sitting there, abandoned, as a threat?
The Camera
There has been no clear indication yet of who has the cameras that were taken from the home. I pray it's the police, and the memory chips are intact. This would be Damning evidence to convict. Those cameras, if the kidnappers took them, would suggest that they have technical expertise. military training or Law enforcement? I have heard reporters speak of inside cameras. Where are those photos if indeed they exist?
Extraction With Minimal Evidence
They kidnapped this lady from her own home with no one hearing a scuffle. No one saw or heard anything. The cameras were neutralized. Her Cell phone apparently went with the watch. Depending on which reporter is correct. Question: A heart patient with a monitor to alert of any changes in heart rate did not register a rapid heartbeat from a terrified patient.Not an alert that would bring immediate medical help from a hospital, EMT, or a nurse to investigate... WHY? whether If of living or dead, that monitor would be screaming with a condition this critical...Why didn't it?
These people apparently drove off without leaving tire tracks or engine noise. No screams of please help me.The scuffle that left a blood trail. Was Nancy Guthrie already diseased? Whose blood trail was there anymore, anywhere? A "cleanup Crew" would not leave blood behind. No one would know there had been a murder there. Just sayin', why no more blood? Sincerely hope I am wrong. I am just attempting to point out the possibilities. not promoting heartache. Pray for the best outcome but brace for the worst.
What also points to a Military/Police operation is the precision of the timing used. It was on a Saturday evening when there were fewer witnesses. late night, early morning. The bars are even closed at this time. The timing wasn't in and out like ghosts. There are 41 plus minutes. It sounds like a team that has worked before and works well together with synchronized movements. Not to worried about discovery. This only comes with a background in training. Not the first time this scenario has been done.
No Direct Communication
There's no direct communication with the family to avoid voiceprints or wiretaps. No delivery drops to corner the perps. They believe they have the perfect crime. Again, no direct contact with family or Law enforcement. This keeps them anonymous and free of identification. Ghosts. no two-way communication channel. It's a one-directional command structure.
Rumors of ransom paid.
The Encryption is, no doubt, 256-bit military-grade. Said to be the best, it is available to most laptop owners today if you can really pay for it. These people obviously can. How many other successful people have had to play this wicked game?
It's rumored that a ransom was or may have been paid. There is still no return of Nancy Guthrie. President Trump has suggested that the kidnappers receive the death penalty when caught. There is DNA now being used to hunt the vile creatures that committed this act.
This Leaves the Following Questions to Pose.
1)Does this level of planning suggest professional operators rather than just opportunistic criminals?
2)What type of training would produce this level of operational discipline?
3)Is the media strategy a form of psychological pressure?
4) Do you think this is a military-type operation by foreign or domestic agents?
5) How will this change our lives regarding the internet, encryption, and personal security for those living remotely and alone?
6) Would she have been safer if she had been armed?
7) How will this change crypto to prevent criminal activity, as has been reported in Minnesota and California?
8)Was the Kidnapping part a cruel hoax or a self-promotion for whoever?
Now, after 30-plus days of watching, in my own opinion, it is based on a few things that have been shown over the last month. Things from the camera that were shown once and not again. News people who ask questions that the sheriff couldn't or wouldn't answer.
1) A figure carrying a body-sized garbage bag with what appeared to be a body inside, walking down the road, going away from Nancy's home. It was slung over the walker's shoulder, and walking appeared to show that it was heavy. Was it Nancy?
2) Reports of DNA that was not family or Nancy's DNA inside the house. Where was it found? Did it indicate a personal attack on an elderly woman?
3) Blood was found inside the house. Was that the source of the DNA, or was that additionally? Identifiable.
4) I have seen what videos were presented to the YouTube public. I have not seen a tattoo. There are a few Tattoo shops on 6th Street in the city, where I was last there 10 years ago. Most are registered with Law enforcement.
5) Why, if there is more video, is it not being used to help all those who were on the internet to identify the perpetrator?
6) One report that went quiet said Nancy's computer hard drive had been removed and was missing. Was it the backup for the cameras, and is this why the police had to ask Google to provide images?
update 03/15/2025
After all this time, I am sorry to think that more than likely the poor lady is deceased. I do not believe, nor have I thought this to be a kidnapping. There's just too much wrong with that scenario. I believe the ransom deal was a separate scammer who thought to profit from a family's loss and pain.
It looks like it might be one of those peculiar crimes where the perpetrator may have had issues with a much older female. She was an older woman who appeared to be very alert and kept herself looking nice, even at her age. She was in charge of her own life for the most part.
There are now videos of him? standing in front of Nancy's home numerous times before the incident. Yet no one saw him, or they saw him as another entity and didn't pay attention to the details. Like seeing a delivery guy or mailman. Your mind just takes it for granted, and you don't put it in your mind.
My take on this whole scenario
Long story short, I believe there was a knock on the front or back door. I believe she got up to answer the door or from a sound that woke her. The house out there is very quiet in the desert. She would have answered the door groggy after she had gone to bed. There was violence that occurred there, and he pushed her into the house and took 40-plus minutes to attack her. Whether her heart failed during the attack or after that remains to be discovered. I believe she was overcome by the violence and passed away in the house, or became very ill. But in that time, he wrapped her up as movies have taught the general public and carried her to a vehicle a distance away. That may also be the blood drips on the porch. I hope I am wrong.
I have hiked all over that area looking for a missing friend years ago. There were places many years ago that you would never find a body. I am told it has grown and expanded greatly since.
The area between Nogalis and Nancy's home used to be pretty scarce of homes and anything beyond shrubs and sand. It's a shame the Sheriff refused the Navy's help. They were very successful in the Carolinas. But the sheriff is under scrutiny for his past history and present performance. It's a shame that Sheriff is said to be to blame for not following procedure and for possibly messing things up.
There were also reports of Gloves found up the road and clothes that looked similar to Nancy's Guthries found in the desert. rumors of evidence found elsewhere, no other news given.
I pray that they capture the individual and carry out the highest sentence possible. Failing that, I pray with all my heart that karma deals as harshly as it can with them one day soon.
Let's pray for the Guthrie Family and this Lady to return home alive and safe. There are thousands of such kidnappings a year in our prayers. This is a new and deadlier form of criminal activity that must be studied and neutralized. It must never happen again. Many such activities have sad endings. May God protect those in such dire danger.
The media circus now covers almost all the YouTube channels with nonstop repeating and rehashing what is on every other channel. not one that I see is digging into the activities of Nancy Guthrie's last week or the 30 days of her life to see if there was any evidence of contact with a deviant person.
Nancy was personally wealthy. No one looked into her affairs beyond the easy way of looking at her family for the perpetrator. Making even more victims who really don't need that crap with what they are contending in their lives right now.
We can hunt and find things online. Satellites are over that area day and night. The Aircraft graveyards are there, if memory serves me correctly. There's an Eye in the sky watching it also, I imagine, as it's still very much government-owned.
There's usually a time and day stamp on satellite photos. Zooming in gives a ground-level photo of the area's street. if theres no street cameras in Nancy Guthries Neighborhood, there still might be an overhead view of a person walking or carrying a load on their shoulder.
were now pushing the 2nd month of an Elder Lady who was 84 years old, living in a quiet neighborhood with her memories and a long and successful life. Victimized by a wicked and evil monster who vanished into the night. A demon with a heart as dark as the night.
May God never let him find peace.
Keep the faith and pray for peace.
RJ Pickering
